tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post3106300172496257783..comments2023-07-01T03:06:08.947-06:00Comments on World of Feedback: Hungering Cold Love:Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00384554437096427217noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-15840210984097129672010-04-26T02:51:02.037-06:002010-04-26T02:51:02.037-06:00Well at least Blizzard still does changes instead ...Well at least Blizzard still does changes instead of just throwing in more abilities/classes/stuff like other devs do.<br /><br />Take LoL for example - you get a new character about every week... and guess what the balancing looks like?<br /><br />Anyhow, I agree with the OP.Warrior Guidehttp://www.warriorguide.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-47611745114298242272008-10-27T21:10:00.000-06:002008-10-27T21:10:00.000-06:00I have to repeat what Sypherous said about the 51 ...I have to repeat what Sypherous said about the 51 point talents. QQing about shadow priests again, just like my last post, but Shadow Priests have been complaining for a long time that our 51 Point talent, is extremely situational, and even in situations where you would like to use it, it can prove to be ineffective, although it has its moments. <BR/>We have also been pushing to have this talent point moved to our 31 pt slot, and to have something that would provide a DPS increase for our 51 pt talent. I really don't think it's gonna happen for DKs, and if it does, Blizzard will never hear the end of it from Shadow Priests, and likely Frost Mages too (Although Deep Freeze has screwed me over quite a few times).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-59727327883633698222008-10-18T09:02:00.000-06:002008-10-18T09:02:00.000-06:00A lot of people seem to lose sight that the 51 poi...A lot of people seem to lose sight that the 51 point talents were designed to be situational (not directed at Jayde, but a lot of posts I've seen). It isn't something that should be used ob every cooldown, or even every fight. I think this has a little to do with the Unholy Blight nerf.<BR/><BR/>However, I do very strongly agree that Hungering Cold is a very, very weak ability for a 51 point talent. As Blood I use Dancing Rune Weapon rather often, and as Unholy there isn't any reason not to use UB. However, as Frost (my personal favorite) I have yet to actually use Hungering Cold for anything other than show. I can see it's potential usefulness in a 5 man, but that is almost always at the beginning of a pull. The 60 RP cost is just to high to rely on it as such.<BR/><BR/>One potential fix for this ability would be to change the target. Instead of "Purge the ground around the Death Knight of all heat," purge the ground around the target, or the selected area, of all heat. This would make it a lot more viable in all situations (boss fights aside?). However, even then I feel the RP cost is too significant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-42258740858712778922008-10-18T03:49:00.000-06:002008-10-18T03:49:00.000-06:00I've been doing a lot of pvp on the DK lately (my ...I've been doing a lot of pvp on the DK lately (my new main, I love this class), and I have to disagree with you on HC's role in pvp. Imo, people are just not creative enough in using it. <BR/><BR/>You don't have to run to people to use, you can pull them and use it (it's very deadly with a glyph'd DG). Using this ability on a healer who's already trinketed guarantees a kill (esp. if you are running some sort of cleave team).<BR/><BR/>My only gripe with HC though is it's RP requirement. To make matters worse, it is placed in a tree that promotes spamming a talent that is RP-based as opposed to run-based (I'm looking at you FS).<BR/><BR/>My suggestion would be to leave HC as is (and maybe even nerf the FF debuff it puts) but remove the RP requirement. That way, you are encouraged to use it every time it's off the CD when the opportunity arises as opposed to thinking twice whether using the RP for dmg would be a better trade off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-70665043657813617132008-10-18T03:45:00.000-06:002008-10-18T03:45:00.000-06:00Been reading this blog for a while and I have to s...Been reading this blog for a while and I have to say you've illuminated quite a bit of the Deathknight class for me. <BR/><BR/>I agree with a lot of the points you made particularly the pvp ones. My first impression of Hungering Cold was that I would rush the other team and freeze them in the first few seconds of the match. My second, yep that tactic will last all of a week.<BR/><BR/>I think your changes would be nice, but I wonder if there is another option. Right now I think the biggest flaw to the ability is that it is an AoE. As such it can't be made too powerful or else become the beat-all-end-all of talents for the tree. In it's current implementation it also doesn't have a lot of room to grow in further expansions.<BR/><BR/>Solution? Make it a single target ability with a 30 yd range(I figure most people will have icy reach anyway), the target is frozen and applies a light to moderate siphon life effect. Think of it as a ice block/polymorph/siphon life hybrid. Essentially an obvious play on the "Hungering" and "Cold" title.<BR/><BR/>This would provide a much needed cc for Deathknights while not fundamentally changing the pvp or pve game. The drain effect could be made to persist through the breaking of the frozen effect giving frost a way of gaining life that is weaker but comparable to unholy and blood. Finally it could still be useful against raid bosses where the frozen effect is immune but the drain effect persists. <BR/><BR/>Runic power cost could stay the same while the cooldown for it could be set at 30 to 40 seconds without feeling terribly overpowered.<BR/><BR/>A single target ability like this has much more room to grow in further expansions and become a hallmark of the class, even growing into and AoE, rather than a talent that is lackluster now and potentially skipped as the class progresses from expansion to expansion.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com