tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post8477344742761240146..comments2023-07-01T03:06:08.947-06:00Comments on World of Feedback: Death strike, Blood Strike, Obliterate:Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00384554437096427217noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-68944406975740438242008-12-08T12:20:00.000-06:002008-12-08T12:20:00.000-06:00obliterate well talented = 2 death runes + no dese...obliterate well talented = 2 death runes + no desease loss<BR/><BR/>DMG goes like<BR/>2 deseases, then obliterate, then howling blast = best dmg output<BR/><BR/>u could use death strike instead for hp regen when need it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>please coment ;)____https://www.blogger.com/profile/16891378075519279587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-73849200025938764422008-09-05T10:55:00.000-06:002008-09-05T10:55:00.000-06:00No DS is a fine cost were it is making it Bloos wo...No DS is a fine cost were it is making it Bloos would tak away from my heart strikes. Obliterate just need to be reworked in someway and maybe DS have its healing upped a wee bit. I agree with Monte that we have enough stuff to use our Blood runes with (HS more specifily) with is the blood trees "big" hitter. I am happy they have not listened to you on changing DS rune cost Jayde and i hope they never do on this issue.ColdFirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194455048311596983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-69698640524442773012008-09-03T10:16:00.000-06:002008-09-03T10:16:00.000-06:00Personally I like the idea of having to choose bet...Personally I like the idea of having to choose between DS and SS/HB. Sure, you do say that the 1B cost could be justified by nerfing the healing it does a bit, but that would make it less effective for the "full healing rotations" that are possible right now (as unholy spec, anyway), meaning having UB up, throwing off an IT and then Rune Tap -> DS -> DS. I like being able to (with some luck involved, sure) heal myself for like 5-6k at level 70. It's not too easy, since it does require some preparations and a cooldown, but that's what makes it fun - the fact that you actually have to think some to be able to do it.<BR/><BR/>I do agree on most of your other points, though, especially that rotating blood runes as frost/unholy right now is a big bore (unless you're aoe'ing as unholy, in which case I guess it's alright.)En kräftas memoarerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16313434622258294844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-3595168468687164882008-09-03T08:38:00.000-06:002008-09-03T08:38:00.000-06:00Whoops, Warlock. You're still one of the more well...Whoops, Warlock. You're still one of the more well-known warlocks, haha.<BR/><BR/>Um, okay. I need to upload it somewhere. Prolly drop a link in your next post.Veokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02383873342597584492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-80480495925317237272008-09-02T22:40:00.000-06:002008-09-02T22:40:00.000-06:00I like your idea to make DS useful...because right...I like your idea to make DS useful...because right now i wouldn't use it or want to use it as ANY spec...<BR/><BR/>So it is pretty much a wasted skill. It costs too much, and doesn't heal much.<BR/><BR/>But i really like reaping with BB...especially because you can use BB ahead of time to get 2 death runes, so it doesn't cut into your initial rotation(and most of the time thats all i need).<BR/><BR/>But if Death Strike was useful and worked off of reaping(and only costed 1 blood)... I "might" consider using it, IF it did better damage in certain situations than BB...otherwise the only time i'd need it would be for heals(granted thats what it is meant for)<BR/><BR/>-SherifuUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602578283981044394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-10006108139071730052008-09-02T18:02:00.000-06:002008-09-02T18:02:00.000-06:00I agree about Death Strike. It does feel awkward ...I agree about Death Strike. It does feel awkward as 1F1U. I almost never use it as Unholy, granted with the current state of Scourge Strike a lot of the time it isn't needed. However, once that is fixed I can see choosing between DS and SS being extremely annoying.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09300558525081542474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-25896264696218112892008-09-02T16:36:00.000-06:002008-09-02T16:36:00.000-06:00@monteyeah see I feel the same way with oblit bein...@monte<BR/><BR/>yeah see I feel the same way with oblit being pretty much just... useless, but I actually get some REALLY nice crits and crit often with death strike. if DRM used obliterate instead of death strike, for the same affect I'd be happy. if obliterate did NOT consume the diseases I'd be happier. and if death strike was indeed a 1blood rune cost then that'd be incredible (with the previously listed changes of course)<BR/><BR/>That way you would always have enough blood runes to either DPS well/self heal OR tank well/self heal. That keeps the theme of the blood tree intact and maintains the utility of it as well.<BR/><BR/>Heart strike though would be nicer if perhaps it had an armor penetration aspect based off the number of diseases on the target. Something like in addition to the extra dmg per disease, heart strike ignores 10/20/30/40% of the targets armor. That is if it works with all diseases not just your own :)Spoonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572670239638692051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-89199265730457190532008-09-02T16:22:00.000-06:002008-09-02T16:22:00.000-06:00@ Spooner: I'm specced blood (unretrofied, horde ...@ Spooner: I'm specced blood (unretrofied, horde side on Lich King) atm and I absolutely love it. The damage is consistent, yet not overwhelming like the other two trees. On top of that, I can maintain myself and chain pull forever. Vampiric Blood works with everything too, it's easily my favorite "tanking" talent of all the trees. VB + FW bandage = 7200 heal, VB + Death Pact = 40% instant heal. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I completely agree with Obliterate, but I have to say that I like Death Strike where it is. Blood runes are in seriously short supply as blood spec (especially with a broken DRM), and even moreso in PvP when you add strangulate into the equation. If you want Death Strike to be changed to be 1B for a rune cost I feel it should be a talent in deep frost, possibly tied into Blood of the North.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811289397849721885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-58275884970477162882008-09-02T15:23:00.000-06:002008-09-02T15:23:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Destradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16311443451709372555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-9698799393480313422008-09-02T14:38:00.000-06:002008-09-02T14:38:00.000-06:00On Northrend server and I imagine yours, I see 99%...On Northrend server and I imagine yours, I see 99% of the DKs around as either Frost or Unholy. Am I the only person left that actually really likes Blood and am deep in the tree?<BR/><BR/>I agree Oblit should have some kind of use because right now my rotation is pretty manic with Unholy presence. It's usually IT>PS>DS>HS>HS>Deathcoil>DS and through crits (there are so so many) and sudden doom procs I find myself ending a fight with 40+ runic power, spammed death coil 2-3 times and runestrike everytime it's up since it doesn't tpa the GCD.<BR/><BR/>So I feel VERY efficient in killing things, leveling and in an instance, even tanking I had no problems so far having tanked quite a few times. Why still the obvious lack of blood spec DKs?Spoonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572670239638692051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-55537309207315936442008-09-02T14:35:00.000-06:002008-09-02T14:35:00.000-06:00Hello Jayde, great feedback as always. I love you...Hello Jayde, great feedback as always. I love your idea for deathstrike and feel it would fit in so well with the other strikes. There are way to many strikes that use 1F 1U and it's actually kind've annoying. However, I think a quick fix would be to make it use 1B 1U. Afterall, it is an Unholy skill, having it only use 1B seems kind've... funky. I guess they could change it to a blood skill but I still want to see a blood combo with other runes. Unholy Frost combo is just so overused, I wish there was a faster way to spend my blood runes besides spamming bloodstrike. I feel like I'm always in need of Unholy/Frost runes and just spamming to get rid of blood runes.<BR/><BR/>Especially in PvP, I find myself (I am deep unholy spec) almost forgetting I have a blood rune up and usually end up just spamming the blood strike key to get rid of them. Blood boil is NOT a good conversion for unholy getting death runes, which is why I LOVE your suggestion of adding a new costing death strike onto it. <BR/><BR/>What I would love to see is Heart Strike we worked for blood. Give it a 2B cost, and make it more of a unique move with a cooldown. I don't like "replacing" BS with HS because as unholy 4 Disease BS is better than 2 disease HS. I would love to see heart strike re-worked into a new move, to keep it on par with Frost/Scourge Strike.<BR/><BR/>And now Obliterate. I never liked this move, deathstrike was always more fun to me, especially since I used to spam it to get blood worms. Obliterate sounds and I believe should feel like a finisher, hence the removes diseases. I really really really would like to see this skill reworked into something different, a runic power based finisher that does weapon damage and explodes your diseases for whatever ammount. That would make me feel like I am "obliterating" them! Make it up to ~60 runic power and only useable when targets have less than 20% health. Its a similar "finish him" move that the other classes have, with a death knight diseases twist onto it.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thanks for reading my feedback, and as always I had fun reading yours.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12825396228541491488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-80642999532339872902008-09-02T14:27:00.000-06:002008-09-02T14:27:00.000-06:00Very nice suggestions on Death Strike indeed. Espe...Very nice suggestions on Death Strike indeed. Especially as a Frosty.<BR/><BR/>Offtopic: Is there any possibility you'll post more things about tanking? I'm a little concerned about Death Knights, I mean... I hope they make both a viable DPS unit as well as a good tank if specced correctly. Are there any major problems right now aside from tanking gear? Rotation problems perhaps?Alanoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04923149883934001868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-47748807889877027822008-09-02T14:21:00.000-06:002008-09-02T14:21:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alanoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04923149883934001868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-72770415249118080292008-09-02T13:29:00.000-06:002008-09-02T13:29:00.000-06:00For which class? I'd be more than happy to take a...For which class? I'd be more than happy to take a look. Just leave a link here.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00384554437096427217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-82593736225439929992008-09-02T13:27:00.000-06:002008-09-02T13:27:00.000-06:00I have to say -- Deathknights are probably the sin...I have to say -- Deathknights are probably the single reason I'm renewing my account. I just want a chance to test them out, they seem like fun.<BR/><BR/>And, hey Leiah, quick question -- I've got a lot of suggestions and reasonings I've collected from the non-beta forums. Would you be interested in reading and/or reposting it? Or are you still mostly focused on doing feedback for Deathknights?Veokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02383873342597584492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-14445150495217138812008-09-02T12:53:00.000-06:002008-09-02T12:53:00.000-06:00Thanks! I had a great time in NY with the lady fr...Thanks! I had a great time in NY with the lady friend. =]Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00384554437096427217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4863412955392305799.post-51853901979344588332008-09-02T12:50:00.000-06:002008-09-02T12:50:00.000-06:00Nice post, agree totally -especially death strike ...Nice post, agree totally -especially death strike feeling worthless, especially as frost =\<BR/><BR/>welcome back!Oscabohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10979510809418773033noreply@blogger.com